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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

08.06.2025 00:50

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

CONCLUSION:

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ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

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ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

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Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

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Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

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Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

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These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Why do some people admire Latin American cultures but not want to be from or live in those countries?

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

What kind of book did you write after turning 55?

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The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

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You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

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With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

I just cannot wake up early, even if I sleep on time. What should I do?

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

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Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

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For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

NOW…

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Kabir (a weaver)

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

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ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Sain (a barber)

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

I am like a fish out of water,

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

then who is there to know what happens without?

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Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Now here in this verse

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥